246: What Happens to Capitalism When AI Does All the Work? with Daniel Faggella & Jesse Elder

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Today’s Guests

Daniel Faggella: Dan is the founder of Emerj Artificial Intelligence Research and the host of The Trajectory, a podcast and newsletter focused on artificial general intelligence, power, and what he calls the posthuman transition. He interviews AI researchers, policy leaders, and academics about what should come after humanity and how to define a “worthy successor.” He has presented on AI to the World Bank, the United Nations, INTERPOL, and at TEDx and Ivy League events, and now runs convenings on AI governance with academics and researchers from the major labs. His two central essays are at danfaggella.com/cause and danfaggella.com/short.

Jesse Elder: Jesse is a speaker, mentor, entrepreneur, and all around lover of life. He’s devoted his life to sharing his principles of self-mastery with people all around the world. Through his popular Mind Vitamin videos, online courses, events, and private coaching, Jesse teaches others how to create their own success and fulfillment, reclaim their personal freedom, and master their reality.

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What happens to entrepreneurs when AI and robots can produce nearly everything we currently get paid to produce?

 

That’s the question I wanted to explore with Daniel Faggella and Jesse Elder.

 

A huge part of modern life is organized around making money. We go to school to develop skills, build careers and businesses, compete for resources, and use capital to create more opportunity.

 

But if AI keeps getting better at doing economically valuable work, some of those assumptions start to break down.

 

We talk about what capitalism could look like when human labor becomes less necessary, whether abundance actually means everyone gets everything they need, and why simply opting out of technological change may become harder than it sounds.

 

We also get into a bigger question entrepreneurs should be thinking about now: What makes you valuable when intelligence and execution are increasingly cheap?

Mic Drop Moments

  • Life isn’t really things. It’s process. So, you’re not made up of just your atoms. You’re a pattern that’s cycling through matter and energy.” – Dan Faggella
  • “We are part of the bubbling and unfurling project of life. Humans draw lines around things like species. Nature’s not doing that. You’re changing right now. Everything is changing right now.” – Dan Faggella
  • I think our awareness of consciousness can become more evolved. It’s like driving down the road, and all of a sudden you put on your high beams, and you see more road. The road didn’t expand. Your awareness of the road, your perception of the road expanded.” – Jesse Elder
  • The thing that’s always felt more flexible and felt like it just is a little bit more practical, instead of asking, is something true, is just to ask, is this useful?” – Jesse Elder
  • Nature doesn’t operate with outcomes.” – Jesse Elder
  • Abundance is actually not the creation of a bigger stockpile that can be doled to everybody. Abundance is the opening up of a greater possibility space.” – Daniel Faggella
  • Attention is, I believe, the ultimate currency of transformation.” – Jesse Elder
  • When you look out for yourself, it forces you to participate. When you participate, the process around you changes.” – Daniel Faggella
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